Anza-Borrego F-4B Phantom 4/3/09

This accident that happened on 11/22/69 involved a flight of two Navy F-8Js with the VF-124 out of NAF El Centro and a Marine F-4B with the VMFA-513 out of MCAS El Toro. The F-8J’s mission ...

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:55:44 -0700

Joe Idoni
This accident that happened on 11/22/69 involved a flight of two Navy F-8Js with the VF-124 out of NAF El Centro and a Marine F-4B with the VMFA-513 out of MCAS El Toro. The F-8J’s mission ...

Photo of the F-4B Phantom BuNo 150473. I finally received the crash report that I requested from the Navy about two months ago. Using that information, I was able to locate the F-4B's cra ...

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:55:45 -0700

Joe Idoni
Photo of the F-4B Phantom BuNo 150473. I finally received the crash report that I requested from the Navy about two months ago. Using that information, I was able to locate the F-4B's cra ...

The information in the crash report lead me to this area. I was fairly confident about being able to locate the crash site.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:28 -0700

Joe Idoni
The information in the crash report lead me to this area. I was fairly confident about being able to locate the crash site.

The first piece of wreckage.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:28 -0700

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The first piece of wreckage.

Looking around, I started finding single pieces scattered around.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:29 -0700

Joe Idoni
Looking around, I started finding single pieces scattered around.

Blade from one of the engines.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:30 -0700

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Blade from one of the engines.

Still finding small pieces. Started thinking that the site was cleaned up and there wasn't going to be much remaining to find. The crash report stated that the F-4B crashed in a flat spin an ...

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:31 -0700

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Still finding small pieces. Started thinking that the site was cleaned up and there wasn't going to be much remaining to find. The crash report stated that the F-4B crashed in a flat spin an ...

Another small piece.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:31 -0700

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Another small piece.

Looking up, I saw what looked like a piece of sheet metal in a shallow hole.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:32 -0700

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Looking up, I saw what looked like a piece of sheet metal in a shallow hole.

Turned out to be one of the F-4B's wings. Looks like the wreckage was buried like that of the F-8J's engine and wings.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:34 -0700

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Turned out to be one of the F-4B's wings. Looks like the wreckage was buried like that of the F-8J's engine and wings.

This is the bottom side of the left wing.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:35 -0700

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This is the bottom side of the left wing.

I think that this hook is used for the catapault launch bridle.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:36 -0700

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I think that this hook is used for the catapault launch bridle.

A section of the leading edge.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:38 -0700

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A section of the leading edge.

Tubing in the leading edge.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:39 -0700

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Tubing in the leading edge.

In this view, you can see one of the main landing gears in the far side of the hole. The F-4B had it's landing gear down at the time of the accident. Can't tell how much of the wing is here, ...

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:40 -0700

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In this view, you can see one of the main landing gears in the far side of the hole. The F-4B had it's landing gear down at the time of the accident. Can't tell how much of the wing is here, ...

Closer look at the landing gear leg.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:40 -0700

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Closer look at the landing gear leg.

I could barely see part of the gear's actuator.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:41 -0700

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I could barely see part of the gear's actuator.

Moving on, I kept following the small pieces to see if I could find any other large pieces.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:44 -0700

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Moving on, I kept following the small pieces to see if I could find any other large pieces.

Small electronic part.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:43 -0700

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Small electronic part.

I was checking all the pieces for part numbers to confirm that this is a F-4, so far haven't found any.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:48 -0700

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I was checking all the pieces for part numbers to confirm that this is a F-4, so far haven't found any.

Another engine blade.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:51 -0700

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Another engine blade.

This was the first and only part number that I found at the site. The 32 indicates a F-4.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:52 -0700

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This was the first and only part number that I found at the site. The 32 indicates a F-4.

A short time later, I came upon this piece of sheet metal.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:53 -0700

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A short time later, I came upon this piece of sheet metal.

Taking a closer look, I could see some lettering and numbers on it.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:55 -0700

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Taking a closer look, I could see some lettering and numbers on it.

The numbers turned out to be the last four digits of the F-4B's serial number which is 150473. I was pretty sure of this being the aircraft that I was looking for, but it's nice to find a nu ...

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:56 -0700

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The numbers turned out to be the last four digits of the F-4B's serial number which is 150473. I was pretty sure of this being the aircraft that I was looking for, but it's nice to find a nu ...

This piece is about two feet long.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:57 -0700

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This piece is about two feet long.

Hard to see in the photo, but there is a lot of tiny pieces here, must be near the impact area.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:11 -0700

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Hard to see in the photo, but there is a lot of tiny pieces here, must be near the impact area.

Close by I could see another hole with something showing.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:13:59 -0700

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Close by I could see another hole with something showing.

It's one of the engines and a section of the fuselage.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:01 -0700

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It's one of the engines and a section of the fuselage.

Me with one of the two General Electric J79-GE-8 engines that powered the F-4s.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:03 -0700

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Me with one of the two General Electric J79-GE-8 engines that powered the F-4s.

What showing of the engine is the afterburner combustion chamber and the variable nozzle.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:04 -0700

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What showing of the engine is the afterburner combustion chamber and the variable nozzle.

Closer look at the variable nozzle.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:05 -0700

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Closer look at the variable nozzle.

Some of the afterburner plumbing.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:07 -0700

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Some of the afterburner plumbing.

Can't tell if the rest of the engine is buried here.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:06 -0700

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Can't tell if the rest of the engine is buried here.

View from the other side.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:07 -0700

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View from the other side.

Couldn't figure out what this was.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:08 -0700

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Couldn't figure out what this was.

Top view of the same assembly.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:40:38 -0700

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Top view of the same assembly.

The crushed gray metal on the right is all titanium.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:09 -0700

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The crushed gray metal on the right is all titanium.

This part was on the edge of the hole.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:10 -0700

Joe Idoni
This part was on the edge of the hole.

Was finding more pieces while starting the hike back to the truck.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:13 -0700

Joe Idoni
Was finding more pieces while starting the hike back to the truck.

Electrical connector.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:14 -0700

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Electrical connector.

Parts from an old car were in the F-4B's debris field.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:15 -0700

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Parts from an old car were in the F-4B's debris field.

Piece of a turbine blade.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:17 -0700

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Piece of a turbine blade.

Melted plastic.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:19 -0700

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Melted plastic.

Part of a wire harness.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:19 -0700

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Part of a wire harness.

Last piece I found.

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:20 -0700

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Last piece I found.

Almost back to the truck. This site turned out to have a lot more wreckage remaining than I was expecting. Photos of the crash site of the F-8J #149212 that mid-aired with this F-4B can ...

nobody@smugmug.com (Joe Idoni) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:14:21 -0700

Joe Idoni
Almost back to the truck. This site turned out to have a lot more wreckage remaining than I was expecting. Photos of the crash site of the F-8J #149212 that mid-aired with this F-4B can ...